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 | Chuck R
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2000-04-22 15012
My lake place is the last one on a mile long private gravel road. I often fill in the potholes with loose gravel but that doesn't last very long. I know nothing about box scrapers but I'm wondering if this wouldn't be a good way to maintain the road. Are they tricky to use? Are there things I should avoid? I certainly don't want to make a mess out of the road for my 20 or so neighbors! Any help anyone can give me would really be appreciated. I don't want to invest in something that will make a mess out of the road! I am running a JD 4400.
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| Bird Senter
Join Date: Jun 1999 Posts: 962 
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2000-04-22 15013
Chuck, a box blade is quite commonly used for the purpose you describe, but yes, they are tricky to use (at least for most of us). If you have a lot of loose gravel, a straight blade (grader blade, back blade, or whatever name is common in your area) might be better because they can be angled like a road grader's blade for the gravel to slide off one end. But if you have a hard surface that you need to cut down, a box blade works better. The trick for most of us is to get it tilted (front to back) so that it cuts in just enough and not too much, then to spread the material that it picks up, you need to either raise it just enough to let it feed out slowly under the blade, or tilt the blade back so it feeds out under the front blade and is smoothed by the rear blade. And then with compact tractors and a 3-point blade, when your tractor wheels roll over high or low spots, the blade rises or falls accordingly to gouge some places and leave too much material others. However, the job can be done with a little practice. If all I want to do is smooth the surface, I'll tilt the blade back just a little so the front cutting edge is barely above the surface and the rear blade is dragging and smoothing. Good luck. ....
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| Steve
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2000-04-22 15024
Take a look a www.roadboss.com. I have never seen one or used one, but it looks like it might work a lot better than a box scraper. If anyone knows anything about the Road Boss, please post your thoughts. I may be intersted in one of those things. Thanks. Steve
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| RegL
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2000-04-23 15027
Heres a good gravel road maintainer if anyone has the luck to come across one.I have been using one for several years to maintain a .5 mi road.they have been around for a long time.Its a pony grader that used to be pulled by horse.The one i use is the smaller version and works great behind a compact tractor.I don't think a compact would pull the bigger ones.With 2 people,one on the tractor and one on the grader,you could use it as is,however the one i use has been modafied so one person driving a tractor can operate it.The front end,including axle, wheels,steering,etc.were removed.Than a steel plate was welded to the front of the main beam and a hole drilled in it so you can hitch it up to a 3pt hitch draw bar.Than all you have to do is set the blade angle and height on the grader.Than you can raise and lower the blade with the 3pt control.The road ends up very even because of the distance between the tractor and rear wheels of grader.I'll post a pic when i get a chance. ....
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| keith daniels
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2000-04-23 15032
I use a King Kutter 5' grader blade with my 27 HP Yanmar and it does a good job.My box blade doesn't dig worth a spit.I angle it all the way to one side and pull it and it makes a neat hill in the center of the road,turn around and do the same thing on the other side of the road,makes a big,wide row of gravel on the center of the road.It cuts the holes out too!!!After that I turn the blade backwards and spread the gravel out evenly and I'm done!!!! The blade will dig as deep as my traction limited tractor will pull it,the rear wheels spin before it stalls the tractor.I would like to see it used on a 4WD sometime to see just how deep it would dig!!!
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| Paul Johnson
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2000-04-24 15036
I gotta agree with Keith my box blade and tractor combination don't dig good at all. and I aint never seen a blade that was heavy enough to be functional. what I ended up doing was insert a steel tube about 18" long onto one or other lift armes. now I got the weight and an angle that cuts off the high spots and kicks them to the center. I have also fitted a peice of 3" channel iron onto the front blade with the flat side to the front. this prevents the blade from digging in and just allows it to remove the high spots while still having the 400# weight of the box pushing down. It works for me and my neighbor has adopted it on his tractor as well. Just my 2 cents. ....
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2000-04-24 15041
I plan to do most of the work for two shallow excavations with my new box scrapper.
I'll tip the back up to let dirt out of the box and loosen as deep as the tractor will pull with the scarifiers. Then, I plan to doz the loosened dirt backward with the rear blade. If the tractor won't doz it the whole length of the excavation, I'll have to take some dirt out with the loader.
The soil is sandy, so the 500# box shouldn't have much trouble cutting. If it did, I'd put several hundred pounds on top of the box.
I'll post a note here if all this theory doesn't work out.
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2000-04-24 15042
There are several good machines out there for that job that I can think of Equip-tec out of Ohio builds a great machine that uses two blades the front is inverted or v facing to knock out the center ridge then there are a roww of teeth that can be up or down and than a large v on the rear that has adjustments as to how much you care to pull. This machine comes in two sizes one 4.5" and a 9'. The 9'only requires a 25 horsepwer tractor but you need a good three point to lift as it weighs over 900lbs. Evan on blacktop this does not bounce around at speed and it is simple to use. ....
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| Nuclear_Weapon7
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2000-04-24 15047
Paul
Can you post a picture of the modification you did on your Box Scraper here ? ....
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| Roger L.
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2000-04-24 15062
If you make or buy a couple of bolt-on end plates for your back blade, you end up with a tool that works like a box blade but can be angled. Using it with one end set higher than the other enables you to dig with half of the blade and spread with the other half. Putting a few hundred pounds of weight on the frame of the back blade helps a lot. ....
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